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chibikia
09-11-2011, 04:35 PM
im going to the salon soon (should probably make an appoinment first )

im planning on going to an egygtian salon, called Magids hair studio, here in chicago (any reviews of this place are welcome lol)

i know the egyptians/dominicans are supposed to be quite good at doing our type of hair texture. now what i really want is a cut/trim to get all of my damaged ends off (its been a while, so he'll probably cut off a lot )

anyways, how should i ask him to style it? should i just get it blowdried, or risk it and ask him to style my hair curly? do egyptian stylists know how to style natural hair without heat?

THANKS!!

Denny
09-11-2011, 05:01 PM
I thought the generalisation was Dominicans (DR) believed our afro air texture was almost evil and did their best to change it but good luck with the salon.

wargoddess
09-11-2011, 05:02 PM
anyways, how should i ask him to style it? should i just get it blowdried, or risk it and ask him to style my hair curly? do egyptian stylists know how to style natural hair without heat?

THANKS!!

I should preface my comment by saying that I am totally unfamiliar with Egyptian salons/techniques.

The answer to this question depends on what you consider to be risk.

I consider it infinitely more risky to allow someone to use a blowdryer than to take a chance on a bad style that won't do long-term damage to my hair. I view the long-term risk of high heat in hair as more serious than the 'omg I just spent $XX and my hair looks like crap' risk.

Early in my transition I did continue to allow stylists to use blowdryers/flatirons, but as I learned more about the potential for damage (check this thread: http://www.nappturality.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23754) the heat usage came to an abrupt halt.

How did you happen to choose this salon? If I were you I would look for a place that wouldn't force you to make such choices.

But that's just my 2 cents.

chibikia
09-11-2011, 05:08 PM
i found this salon on yelp, they had really good reviews even from women who wore their hair natural but it sounded a bit that they specialize in straight styles which isn't what i really want..what mainly attracted me was the price, i called a few weeks ago and he quoted a trim on natural hair to be $25 (im going to call again to make sure lol), compared to other salons, who might style natural hair better, saying like $70...

really my fear is that he'll "need" to use a lot of heat to trim/cut my hair properly, but idk where else to go thats affordable for me right now :/

AStone
09-11-2011, 05:20 PM
You can do your own trim for free if you like :) I used to do it using TST's and I'm sure you can find a how-to online if not right here.

As for the salon, when you call back ask if they use heat to do the trim if they do your choice is simplified: if you don't mind heat go for it, if you do don't - I wouldn't do it personally because I've seen heat damage and it wouldn't make sense to me to get a trim while risking damaging my hair which will lead to an even bigger cut lol.

wargoddess
09-11-2011, 05:37 PM
I think your concern that the trim will involve heat is justified, but you can call them to find out for sure. And AStone is right - you can go the DIY route. When I can get over my current bout of laziness I'm going to cut out my remaining relaxer...planning to do it right here at home.

coalblacklocs
09-11-2011, 05:43 PM
I am skeptical, particularly of Dominican salons. I don't know anything about Egyptian salons. You should ask some one if they do it without heat or straightening, ask the name of the person and don't be afraid to ask for that person by name when you go in ...or just make the appointment with that person.

Personally, I think you'd be better off doing it yourself. it's just a trim. you will know exactly how much that you want off.

afroknots11412
09-11-2011, 05:51 PM
i know for a fact that dominican salons use a lot of heat. and i have also heard that egyptian salons use a lot of heat as well. so be careful.

chibikia
09-11-2011, 05:59 PM
great advise everyone, i think i will just ask if they use heat to trim, im just nervous about the language barrier lol the guy i spoke to last time had a very heavy accent, i don't want any misunderstandings!

hmm what i more want i think is closer to a cut than a trim...im talking a few inches off...i haven't had a legit cut in years! i know a lot of my hair is damaged, and even my diy trims don't help much.
so im now sucking up the courage and letting them cut off all the damage.

i'm not so much opposed to them blow drying to cut as long as they dont bring out the flat iron!

LuvJones
09-11-2011, 06:12 PM
im going to the salon soon (should probably make an appoinment first )

im planning on going to an egygtian salon, called Magids hair studio, here in chicago (any reviews of this place are welcome lol)

i know the egyptians/dominicans are supposed to be quite good at doing our type of hair texture. now what i really want is a cut/trim to get all of my damaged ends off (its been a while, so he'll probably cut off a lot )

anyways, how should i ask him to style it? should i just get it blowdried, or risk it and ask him to style my hair curly? do egyptian stylists know how to style natural hair without heat?

THANKS!!

By your post count I see your new 'round these parts so I say this with love...molly you in danger girl!!!:-)):-))

You won't find anyone on NP who will condone the use of heat, it goes against the mission of the site. It's not allowed to speak of it. As others have said heat can/does cause LONG term damage. I wouldn't risk it.

You may want to get out of the mindset that certain groups have the "knowitall" about nappy hair. It just ain't so.

Don't fall into that trap because truth be told A LOT and I mean A LOT of brown folks have NO clue how to PROPERLY manage our hair. Don't let ANYONE tell you, you HAVE to straighten your hair to have it trimmed. THAT IS A BOLD FACE LIE and typically mean they no NOTHING about our hair.

Please be careful whom you trust your hair...there is a forum on this board that has salons on it...check it out...I'm sure we have some sistas from Chi Town on here who can give recommendations.

Good Luck.

bellagirl
09-11-2011, 06:18 PM
i know for a fact that dominican salons use a lot of heat. and i have also heard that egyptian salons use a lot of heat as well. so be careful.

(:-) They use a crap load of heat, with blow dryers and curlers.


I have no experience with the salon you mentioned, but manyyyy years ago, I occasionally went to Egyptian salons and I've NEVER seen anyone leave those places without bone straight hair (this all via blow drying). If indeed this is your choice to go to this salon, go in and speak to the person who will do your hair. They will quote you one price and jack it up when you arrive, either because your hair is 100% natural or it requires, what they consider to much work. Our meaning of natural hair is not their meaning of natural. I know from experience.

I agree, you can trim your own hair, but if you're not comfortable doing so, their are PLENTY of reputable salons in Chicago that can care for your natural hair without blow drying just to clip/cut your ends. Please sis, search around before you jump into that chair. ;)

chibikia
09-11-2011, 06:18 PM
By your post count I see your new 'round these parts so I say this with love...molly you in danger girl!!!:-)):-))

You won't find anyone on NP who will condone the use of heat, it goes against the mission of the site. It's not allowed to speak of it. As others have said heat can/does cause LONG term damage. I wouldn't risk it.

You may want to get out of the mindset that certain groups have the "knowitall" about nappy hair. It just ain't so.

Don't fall into that trap because truth be told A LOT and I mean A LOT of brown folks have NO clue how to PROPERLY manage our hair. Don't let ANYONE tell you, you HAVE to straighten your hair to have it trimmed. THAT IS A BOLD FACE LIE and typically mean they no NOTHING about our hair.

Please be careful whom you trust your hair...there is a forum on this board that has salons on it...check it out...I'm sure we have some sistas from Chi Town on here who can give recommendations.

Good Luck.

thanks!
hm yea i really shouldnt compromise on my hair health, after all i am paying THEM...i'll go check out the salon forums, this egyptian salon was like my if-push-comes-to-shove choice, i'd really like a find a salon with stylists with hair like mine who are more likely to be able to style my hair without heat!

chocolynne
09-11-2011, 06:52 PM
I used to go to an Egyptian salon on the South Side of Chgo about 30 years ago. Those irons were smoking! Folks used to love them but then started noticing how their hair was breaking off. The salon went from very popular to completely closed a few years later. Watch it, Egyptians loooooove heat and love straight hair even more so.

coalblacklocs
09-11-2011, 07:23 PM
i got the best cuts ever on my natural hair from the barber shop. i live in oldfashioned rural southern town, with a very OLD traditional looking barbershop, and i was extremely nervous about going on there with all those MENZ to let a MAN cut my hair..with my HUSBAND no less. it was almost unthinkable to me. o.0 But the head barber was so nice and the pointed me to the barber who normally cuts women hair and he hooked me up. i kept going to him for about a good 9 months until i decided to grow my hair out.


find a good barber who does afros, he'll give you a nice round shape without heat, even if your hair is on the longer side, he can still hook you up.

meraki
09-11-2011, 09:09 PM
You're in Chicago? Plenty other options.

I've never been to an Egyptian salon myself, but all I hear about is how much heat they use - like it's their specialty. It may not be, but that's all I hear about. Do they know how to cut nappy hair without heat? Are they going to be careful or impatient with your hair? Are they going to pressure you into a straight style (because that's what they know/think is best)? In a situation where folks are known for making hair bone-straight, I'd go for a consultation before I let anyone put scissors or any other tool in my hair.

KellyVonn
09-11-2011, 10:07 PM
I agree with the ladies. If you can't cut hair without applying so much heat....you should question "their" practices. "Healthy hair practices" that is. Good luck sis.

GalaxyGirl2012
09-11-2011, 10:58 PM
wow a lot of heat is an understatement. it's darn near nuclear reactor hot.

never been to an egyptian salon but from what i've heard they are all about the heat.

afroknots11412
09-11-2011, 11:20 PM
yeah i just don't trust anyone to do cut or trim my hair. this is one of the reasons i came to np. i had just come from getting my hair trimmed by the dominicans and my hair was burnt to the crisp coco. i wish i had known about np before i went because i definitely would not have gone and i would have trimmed my hair on my own. go on youtube and find videos on how to self trim. they have helped me.