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nubnpoet
12-23-2004, 04:21 PM
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=7][COLOR=purple]Can anyone offer suggestions on how to go back to your hair's natural curl pattern after straightening for 2 months........I didn't realize that hair has memory....... :dunno:

malissann
12-23-2004, 04:26 PM
You may have to end up doing the big cut. Two months of straightening sounds like a lot of damage.

Niya
12-23-2004, 04:39 PM
if it's damaged, nothing will bring it back. You'll just have to cut off what's damaged.

you can try washing and deep conditioning, but 9 times out of 10, scissors will be your only option.

how many times did you straighten it?

littlefish
12-23-2004, 05:17 PM
Two months?! I think it's more that you've fried your hair straight than that your hair has a memory. I agree with the other posters: you may be looking at a big chop situation.

Good luck.

littlefish

nicetry
12-23-2004, 06:37 PM
Simply make a committment to not straighten for awhile and wash your hair daily. Moisturize daily and wear styles that allow your natural curl pattern to heal. When I finished transitioning last December, I had been pressing for 3 months. I just stopped and started washing my hair nightly, putting it in bantus at night and fluffing into a fro in the a.m. Your texture will not change unless you chemically change it so you haven't LOST your curl.

However, if the wrong pressing process was used, your ends might be jacked so give yourself a trim for good measure.

napturallyme
12-23-2004, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by littlefish@Dec 23 2004, 01:17 PM
Two months?! I think it's more that you've fried your hair straight than that your hair has a memory. I agree with the other posters: you may be looking at a big chop situation.

Good luck.

littlefish

654009


EXACTLY

Good luck!

ETA:
Your texture will not change unless you chemically change it so you haven't LOST your curl.
Actually this is not true, I know plenty of people who's texture has changed from excessive heat. I used heat all through my transitioning and I had to cut off heat damaged new growth.

nicetry
12-23-2004, 06:41 PM
Go to a professional and let someone you trust look at your head

Storm
12-23-2004, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by nicetry@Dec 23 2004, 03:37 PM
Your texture will not change unless you chemically change it so you haven't LOST your curl.

654087


Nonsense, constant heat straightening will damage the hair resulting in the loss of naps. I was a pressing fiend the first 5 months after I went natural (9 years ago now) and I had to cut off all that hair because it was no longer coily..just a mess of frizz and limp straight ends.

You will probably need to cut off a substantial amount of it and start over.

Yolanda35
12-23-2004, 07:11 PM
In to my 7th month, I decided to do a non professional straightening. Luckily, percentage of my hair snapped back, but there were still some areas that did not. It took lots of WASHING and BRAIDING before it turned back to normal. I refused to chop what had taken me so long to grow. Perhaps if I had gone to a professional, I would not have been able to snap back. It takes a long time though.

Good luck. :)

AfrikaIzin_My_Hair
12-23-2004, 07:48 PM
Sounds like you burned your hair straight. I'm sorry, but the part of your hair that won't curl back up will have to get cut off.

stillwater09
12-23-2004, 07:49 PM
Your texture will not change unless you chemically change it so you haven't LOST your curl.

:icon_headshake:

tdhayes
12-23-2004, 07:50 PM
Constant pressing of the hair is JUST AS DAMAGING as a relaxer/texturizer. If you've washed your hair several times and your curl pattern has not returned, you very well may have permenantly damaged your hair. If this is the case, get ready to become friends with some shears because it's time to cut off the dead/limp ends...sorry hun...

noodles727
12-23-2004, 08:16 PM
Thanks for starting this thread. What if you decide to straighten your hair every now and again. I thought about getting a professional press from a beautician. That would not hurt would it?

Niya
12-23-2004, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by nicetry@Dec 23 2004, 01:37 PM
Your texture will not change unless you chemically change it so you haven't LOST your curl.

654087


:huh:

Heat = Damage Sticky (http://www.nappturality.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=24408)

Moderator W
12-24-2004, 01:06 AM
The heat:</span> disturbs the moisture balance
naps will deteriorate if the hair strands are not able to absorb and retain moisture.
damages the outer layer of a hair shaft
the swelling and contracting of the hair shaft causes cracks in the cuticle
can reshape the natural pattern of curl form
if the appliance is too hot, the moisture in the hair can come to boil which also weakens the coils.
<img src=\'http://www.kroeshaar.com/goingnatural.com/nappturality/article/healtyhair.jpg\' border=\'0\' alt=\'user posted image\' /> <img src=\'http://www.kroeshaar.com/goingnatural.com/nappturality/article/heatdamage.jpg\' border=\'0\' alt=\'user posted image\' />
healthy hair -------- heat damaged hair

After withstanding heat from appliances kinks may have difficulty returning to their natural form. It can take up to a year before the natural pattern returns IF AT ALL. For all of these reasons Nappturality always advises against the use of heat to style your hair.

Once hair is damaged, IT CANNOT BE REPAIRED. This is another "lye" promoted by hair stylists and hair product companies. Hair can only be temporarily patched up; unlike skin, it does not heal.

Many people believe that protein reconstructers do what their name claims, so that any damage can be conditioned away. It can&#39;t.

So before you heat up that comb, blowdryer or flatiron think carefully about whether or not you are prepared to accept the fact that you may lose your coils permanently.

<span style=\'color:blue\'>The Nappturality Team

Only1biancab
12-24-2004, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by nubnpoet@Dec 23 2004, 11:21 AM
Can anyone offer suggestions on how to go back to your hair&#39;s natural curl pattern after straightening for 2 months........I didn&#39;t realize that hair has memory....... :dunno:

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I don&#39;t think two months is that long. I&#39;ve heard of people doing it for years. I don&#39;t know how hot the heat was or how often you were using it either. But I think you give it some time, it may go back to the way it was. Heat alters you hair&#39;s shape by messing around with the hydrogen bonds. It&#39;s just like when you use straw sets, roller sets, and etcetera. If you keep using water and wet set into straw sets, roller sets, twists, or something then you might be able to make the hydrogen bonds reform properly. Or it could at least give the appearance of your texture.

Seriously though, give it some time. You really don&#39;t have to cut it off right away. Patience might prove to be worth it.

I agree that heat can chemically change the texture of your hair. Messing around with hydrogen bonds technically is a chemical process. But hey so is almost everything else you do with your hair.
;)

indigo2
12-24-2004, 05:07 AM
The best state of the hair is non-straight. It is the healthiest and the best. t what is always so disturbing to me is that it seems as if people need to use excessive heat to go straight.

Dont&#39; do it but if you do, use a low setting or something. Callin yourself natural and frying your hair makes no sense to me.
If you absolutely have to straighten your hair don&#39;t fry it and your curl pattern should come back.

the hair has memory, but if that memory is burned out, how will the curl come back? :dunno:

nicetry
12-24-2004, 05:22 AM
My hair is ok and undamaged...no one can refute that. However, I understand your theories folks. A professional can best analyze her hair. It would be great if we had a licensed cosmetologist on the boards to offer their expertise. I&#39;m sure many have made great points.

Peace

Tammii
12-24-2004, 11:17 AM
@ nicetry - even licensed cosmetologists don&#39;t know how to care your hair for you, that&#39;s why we&#39;re here and striving to care for our own hair.

@nubnpoet - I see that you are fairly new and probably missed the big post Dee did at the top of this board on the damages of heat and straightening (Moderator W put it out there for you). Anyway, it seems to me that two people have tried to wash and moisterize method and it worked for them. However, I think that you should cut it and start over. Don&#39;t try to hold on to unhealthy hair, it will come back to haunt you. As a matter of fact, healthy hair should be your focus rather than a fix. Trust me kinks look better than straight hair. Also don&#39;t be afraid of it in its natural state. There are many ways of dressing, just do the research and see how other people have done it in their albums. Good luck, OK.

BrownsuggaDIVA
12-24-2004, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Tammii@Dec 24 2004, 07:17 AM
@ nicetry - even licensed cosmetologists don&#39;t know how to care your hair for you, that&#39;s why we&#39;re here and striving to care for our own hair.

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ITA!!!

@nicetry..just because yours came back ok for you doesnt mean that the damage does not exist. i have known 3 ladies at church that did the big chop all over again because of constant pressing.
lady one...(didnt even know she was natural) when tried to wear her hair in its natural state looked a mess. parts of hair curled..others straight...some wavy. finally, she just got it chopped.

lady two..had been natural all her life..permed in college..hated it..grew it out...BCed...then started pressing. came to church asking why was her hair breaking? some parts were straight..other parts nappy..etc. had to be told..heat damage..her texture was also very much altered. big chop for her

lady three..another i thought was permed...but she said she was tired of the damage..her hair wouldnt revert...so she big chopped last summer.

there are those who may press once and have a damaged head...some may press for years....and SURELY the cosmetologists can jack UP some heads by pressing...we have seen MANY a threads about them.

oh, and we have plenty licensed cosmetologists on the boards..

thunderstorm
12-24-2004, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by noodles727@Dec 23 2004, 09:16 PM
Thanks for starting this thread. What if you decide to straighten your hair every now and again. I thought about getting a professional press from a beautician. That would not hurt would it?

654178



i straighten my hair from time to time and i have never had a problem with the heat permanently altering my natural hair texture.

so it&#39;s difficult for me to understand why so many people believe that a press and comb style or blow dry style will harm one&#39;s texture. the only way i could believe this is if your straightening comb was scorching so that you literally burned your hair into a permanent straight texture. the use of a temperature-control comb or doing a white-towel test with a traditional comb, should prevent this from happening.

another thing, i had my hair professionally flatironed where the stylist used a heavy styling wax to preserve the straightness. it took several shampoos to get that wax out. if you used a heavy product on your hair to prevent it from going back, that may be what&#39;s making you think your hair is still straight. keep doing a clarifying shampoo until all of the heavy product is out and you&#39;ll notice your curls coming back.

oddly enough, the style that i have experienced texture change with is a natural puff because i was wearing it on a daily basis with tension on the same front area for several months, making a loc of hair up front actually straighten, even after a fresh wash. and i don&#39;t even wear my puffs pulled taut.

napturallyme
12-24-2004, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by nicetry@Dec 24 2004, 01:22 AM
My hair is ok and undamaged...no one can refute that. However, I understand your theories folks. A professional can best analyze her hair. It would be great if we had a licensed cosmetologist on the boards to offer their expertise. I&#39;m sure many have made great points.

Peace

654384



Just my observation from being on this board, it tends to be the so called professionals who do the most damage when it comes to heat on natural hair. They certainly were the ones who damaged my hair during my transition period. The couple of times that I have used heat since I&#39;ve been natural, I did it myself and had no damage because I didn&#39;t use excessive heat like the professionals tend to use. The horror stories I have heard on here from going to professionals makes me not want to go.


I think the OP should cut off the damage hair and start over and try to avoid using heat as much as possible if not at all. It&#39;s hair it will grow back

ETA: Healthy hair should be your focus, so to achieve that sometimes we have to cut off our hair, I know it&#39;s hard to do that, but it&#39;s best

Storm
12-24-2004, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by nicetry@Dec 24 2004, 02:22 AM
It would be great if we had a licensed cosmetologist on the boards to offer their expertise.
654384


Cosmetologist expertise? :dunno: That strikes me as an oxymoron. Every hair dresser I have encountered has been a fool, a bigger fool, and an idiot. None of their "expertise" has ever done my hair a lick of good. Expertise, schmecterize..... <_<

Natural Kinks
12-24-2004, 03:18 PM
IA with you ladies about the professionals - most of them don&#39;t know what the heck they are doing OR talking about! Heck most of them don&#39;t even know how to properly "comb" natural hair. Your hair is probably damaged, cut it off for healthy strands and a fresh start and don&#39;t risk your hair&#39;s health for heat - it&#39;s like playing with fire - literally you&#39;re bound to get burned!

rayettaseals
12-24-2004, 05:37 PM
nubnpoet,
Girl I know how you feel. I was wearing a weave for four years and in between getting weaves done, i decided to give me hair a mini rest for a coulple of weeks before putting my weave back in. During those four weeks that I had the weave out, I had my hair flat ironed, blow dried and curled. My intent was to put my weave back in, but I decided to try "the natural thing" since I kinda like my hair texture and it was sooooo long from being weaved up and not permed for four years.

Well getting to the point, I noticed in the back left of my hair that no matter what I did, that section would not coil up. It just had this wavy pattern to it, which wouldn&#39;t be bad, but the other 80% of my hair would coil up and that side almost looks permed. It has been 3months now and I have tried, reconstructors, deep conditioners, moisturized, oils, butters, etc. and that side of my hair will not revert back. I have accepted the fact that that side of my hair has been permenantly damaged by heat. So I agree that heat is almost as damaging as a perm. Since I refuse to cut off all of my hair because 20% of my hair won&#39;t act right, I just work with what I got. When I do twists, I have to put that section of my hair with those little perming bendy rods in order for it to blend in. But also for the last 3 months that the new growth in that section is growing out the way it should, nice, thick and coily. So the only answer is cutting it off or letting it grow back out.

Only1biancab
12-24-2004, 06:26 PM
Hair can be in its natural state and still be "unhealthy." "Healthy" is reserved for the living, not the dead.

rayettaseals: Did you know the texture of the hair on the nape of your neck before straightening it? You said you were trying this "natural thing," so it seems to me that you didn&#39;t know your texture beforehand. If that&#39;s the case, then that hair may be wavy naturally. We classify our hair as 3.a, 3.c, 4.b and so on. However, I don&#39;t think it possible that every hair on your head is going to be that same texture. I&#39;ve read plenty of posts about people having straight hairs or hairs that won&#39;t coil up like the rest. It&#39;s not damage; it&#39;s natural.

Moderator W
12-24-2004, 06:40 PM
so it&#39;s difficult for me to understand why so many people believe that a press and comb style or blow dry style will harm one&#39;s texture. the only way i could believe this is if your straightening comb was scorching so that you literally burned your hair into a permanent straight texture. the use of a temperature-control comb or doing a white-towel test with a traditional comb, should prevent this from happening.


The topic of this thread is heat styling, i.e. pressing, and it was left "open" because the hair board is the first (hopefully) place new members seeking info go.

Heat destroys hair.

It seems it can&#39;t be said too often. So, although redundant, threads on this topic will always be popping up.

These topics are NOT here to debate whether or not pressing will destroy your naps, or alter your texture.

"Well, maybe the comb, flat iron, 2800 watt hair dryer, curling iron, etc. was too hot..."

Any direct heat styling is a risk to your hair. Do it, and you take your chances.