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    Thanks Sis.
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    Tips?
    Don't put any conditioner or oils in your hair while setting the braid or twist.I did it with Black Earth Styling gel and the slip put me back 2/3 months.

    There are alot of 2 strand twisters from older posts. They may not post as often, but they are here, that's why u see braidlocks more. Just look in the signature or if you can see their card, their link may be there. 2 strand twists will puff and swell more in the beginning 12 months than braidlocks. They may unravel as well. That's not a problem-but it be ready to search for ways to deal with it as it arises. Braidlocks do the same thing; but maintain their formation because, well, it's a braid-but they WILL condense and swell, just not as much bc the hair is kind of knitted into formation stronger than a 2strand twist.

    Consider new ways to condition your hair the first 6 months-like aloe vera juice spritz or chamomille tea rinse, to prevent excessive slippage and bunching.

    Water is your best friend. There's no need to blow dry the hair to set the lock into place..it will cause it to bunch unevenly and damage the new core of your future locks, so dont.

    Parts dont matter, it all changes anyway. Just breath, and style your hair like you would normally for the week, leave it alone. In a year, you'll have locks!

    Congrats.
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    Tips?
    Don't put any conditioner or oils in your hair while setting the braid or twist.I did it with Black Earth Styling gel and the slip put me back 2/3 months.

    There are alot of 2 strand twisters from older posts. They may not post as often, but they are here, that's why u see braidlocks more. Just look in the signature or if you can see their card, their link may be there. 2 strand twists will puff and swell more in the beginning 12 months than braidlocks. They may unravel as well. That's not a problem-but it be ready to search for ways to deal with it as it arises. Braidlocks do the same thing; but maintain their formation because, well, it's a braid-but they WILL condense and swell, just not as much bc the hair is kind of knitted into formation stronger than a 2strand twist.

    Consider new ways to condition your hair the first 6 months-like aloe vera juice spritz or chamomille tea rinse, to prevent excessive slippage and bunching.

    Water is your best friend. There's no need to blow dry the hair to set the lock into place..it will cause it to bunch unevenly and damage the new core of your future locks, so dont.

    Parts dont matter, it all changes anyway. Just breath, and style your hair like you would normally for the week, leave it alone. In a year, you'll have locks!


    Congrats.
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    Oil put you back 2/3 months you say. :unsure:

    I've been using JML loc oil to keep my locs from drying out, not everyday, but maybe I should stop.

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    Thanks cheleski68 and Star13.

    I assume cheleski68 mean't until they settle. Not at the point of twisting should you add oil. I was going to use vitamin e cream. So I am glad you mentioned that. I just washed my hair and will let it dry and do it tomorrow.

    I will probably use aloe vera gel, but I have never used gel on my natural twists.

    Thanks and I will post some pics after the deal is done!




    Hello Ladies,

    I am mostly a lurker, but have been on the forum for years. I have been happy with my natural hair for 12 years (with one year of creamy crack psychosis--then just chopped and kept on going). But, recently I have been desiring a different look and approach to natural hair. Thus, I am ready to loc.

    I will start with two strands or braids. I wanted to get them installed at the salon, but she has no time and is two hours away.

    So, I want to know, for you ladies who wen this route:

    Did you blow dry then braid or twist or do it wet?

    What are the hidden disadvantages of both (I have read some of these, but any others are appreciated)?

    How small can you go and still have the option to palm roll or latch for maintenance?

    Do the parts really matter?

    And while I have seen lots of Braidlocs, I haven't seen a lot of photos of two strand loc'ed folks.

    Any assistance you can offer is appreciated.

    Thanks!
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    Thanks cheleski68 and Star13.

    I assume cheleski68 mean't until they settle. Not at the point of twisting should you add oil. I was going to use vitamin e cream. So I am glad you mentioned that. I just washed my hair and will let it dry and do it tomorrow.

    I will probably use aloe vera gel, but I have never used gel on my natural twists.

    Thanks and I will post some pics after the deal is done!
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    No, I meant your initial starter locks, whatever they may be it's best to stay away from oils-conditioners-creams-all of that. Locking is a different mindset and undoing the need for slick conditioners is one of the initial hardest obstacles to circumvent.

    Did I do oils? Yes, that's how I know they can set you back. A spritz is just as productive and does the job without the grease. I had alot of bunching that had nothing to do with budding. I dealt with it for the first 18months or so...so Star, dont freak out, just stop, then deal with it.

    After month 6 MOST locks have started to settle and you could start them.

    If you must start with something-aloe vera gel is a great foundation to start with and maintain with.I always used it on my 2 strand twists for definition and hold.

    Will your hair lock if you use oils and conditioners? Yes. Just know that you may need to look into future solutions for the problems they may bring.
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    I started my first set of locks with 2ST, and had them retightened with a hook.... One key to starting w/2ST is NOT to have a fresh cut! {if the ends are uneven/split, your hair will hold-up/begin to lock} I am starting my new set with Ext. Braids {see pics in album below}. Everyone else here has given good advice already, nothing more to add...

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    Thanks Spiral.

    I DIY'ed some 2strs this weekend. I used aloe vera to twist.

    Just waiting for it to all unfold.

    Will keep seeking advice as they grow and stick.
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    OK, this is late and it looks like you're already moving forward with your journey, but I was snooping round for tips on coloring and found your question. (At 30, I finally have more random strands of gray hairs than I'm willing to yank out, but not nearly enough to pretend I'm some kinda silver fox. Ha.) Thought it'd be worth archiving more viewpoints.

    In any case, I started my locs as two-strand twists around Oct. 07, I think. I say "I think," because locing wasn't something I planned, I just sorta fell into it. Don't remember exactly what set of twists were the loc twists, as I was sorta bouncing between twists and puffs those days. At that point, I'd been natural for about 6 years, and locs were the final frontier, so I must've been ready for 'em on some level. Anywho, to answer your questions...

    1) My twists were definitely done wet. I rarely dry twisted, and I was not in a dry-twist phase. That, I do remember.

    2) I wouldn't straighten out hair before locking. It sounds like a recipe for a) locs that don't want'a lock, B) baby locks that snap and go bye-bye, or c) both. Call me biased, but I can't think of any disadvantages to wet-twisting for locs. From an aesthetic viewpoint, they won't show as much length right off the bat as will blow-dried locs. But at that stage of the game, the look of your twists shouldn't matter - it's the locs you're after. I'd be more interested in twists that are strong and set the stage for lovely locs.

    3) Maintenance? I wouldn't go smaller than pencil width. It'll be a bugger to maintain anything smaller than that. Forget neatness, just keeping them all from hugging and joining once they're mature (provided you're not intentionally pursuing a sort of freeform look) is a kind of punishment in itself . And go too small, and they might wanta break, or worse, rip loose from the follicle. I used to have some tiny locs round my hairline... Took care of that silliness. I'm all better now.

    And shame on me, but uh, I do almost ZERO maintenance, as far as palm-rolling or latching or anything like that goes. Once, months ago, actually in 2008, I did a tool-less version of what would be latch-hook on my crown, and I'll be tidying up the crown again (very light palm rolling - yes I'm mixing it up...) for an event, but otherwise I don't maintain.

    3) And my parts? Ha, I never took the time to organize them into neat, little matrices back when I was just twistin for twistin's sake ... and such are the state of my locs. And they're fine. I wash about once every 2 weeks, sometimes once a week, and I have hand-in-head disease where I absentmindedly coil loose hairs around loced strands almost once an hour. Every hour. Every day. Of my life. I think that's what keeps my head in check.

    Here are some pics of my locs. Not intended to be hair photos, but you get the idea.






    I should note that late last year, I took a pair of scissors and wound up giving myself a hair cut. I wanted the back to be shorter and tapered and the front dramatically longer, but with piece-y, long, asymmetrical bangs. Buh-lieve me, in my mind, I knew EXACTLY what I was going for. Was only moderately successful at executing. I'm enlisting the aid of a pro to get it right after I get more length, but I'm kind of enjoying the whatever-it-is cut I got now. (And that's another thing, you can cut mature 2-strand twist locs with no problem/unraveling - at least I could).

    Oh, and I wished I would have stayed 100% product free that first year. I used some oils and natural aloe vera gels and such, not on any kind of regular basis, but looking back, I would have preferred to keep my young locks from making friends with and hanging on to some of that crap. It's normal for locs to collect some fuzz and dust from the environment. Adding excessive product to that situation just mucks things up.

    And of course, everyone's idea about "excessive," is going to vary and come down to personal opinion.



    Hello Ladies,

    I am mostly a lurker, but have been on the forum for years. I have been happy with my natural hair for 12 years (with one year of creamy crack psychosis--then just chopped and kept on going). But, recently I have been desiring a different look and approach to natural hair. Thus, I am ready to loc.

    I will start with two strands or braids. I wanted to get them installed at the salon, but she has no time and is two hours away.

    So, I want to know, for you ladies who wen this route:

    Did you blow dry then braid or twist or do it wet?

    What are the hidden disadvantages of both (I have read some of these, but any others are appreciated)?

    How small can you go and still have the option to palm roll or latch for maintenance?

    Do the parts really matter?

    And while I have seen lots of Braidlocs, I haven't seen a lot of photos of two strand loc'ed folks.

    Any assistance you can offer is appreciated.

    Thanks!
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    Tips?
    Don't put any conditioner or oils in your hair while setting the braid or twist.I did it with Black Earth Styling gel and the slip put me back 2/3 months.

    There are alot of 2 strand twisters from older posts. They may not post as often, but they are here, that's why u see braidlocks more. Just look in the signature or if you can see their card, their link may be there. 2 strand twists will puff and swell more in the beginning 12 months than braidlocks. They may unravel as well. That's not a problem-but it be ready to search for ways to deal with it as it arises. Braidlocks do the same thing; but maintain their formation because, well, it's a braid-but they WILL condense and swell, just not as much bc the hair is kind of knitted into formation stronger than a 2strand twist.

    Consider new ways to condition your hair the first 6 months-like aloe vera juice spritz or chamomille tea rinse, to prevent excessive slippage and bunching.

    Water is your best friend. There's no need to blow dry the hair to set the lock into place..it will cause it to bunch unevenly and damage the new core of your future locks, so dont.

    Parts dont matter, it all changes anyway. Just breath, and style your hair like you would normally for the week, leave it alone. In a year, you'll have locks!

    Congrats.
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    Ya know , I never read this response well enough. I understand what you are saying. I don't/didn't use oil very frequently, I've used it a few times since this month, probably not enough to make a real difference. At this point I'm just saving the bottle until later, because I don't really need it now.

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