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    Default Black man with 22 kids & 14 baby mamas may get reality show !!!

    PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD TO BOYCOTT THIS DISGRACE TO OUR COMMUNITY !! http://naturallymoi.com/2013/07/news...-reality-show/
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    Yes it's a disgrace, but he must make a living to provide for his children. Do I want this garbage in the media? No. But is it necessary for Mr. Shaw? Possibly because there's lessons to be learned ... and there won't be any change unless he experience. The opportunity seems great initially however Mr. Shaw needs to think before he puts his business on the street - public scrutiny. The show could either improve his life or worsen. Whether we support it or not, Mr. Shaw won't see a dime. Although he may be a disgrace to the community, I'm viewing it as a man who made mistakes trying to correct things. I rather a reality show than selling drugs in the community, thieving or nothing.

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    I don't always agree with Dr. Watkins but he's right on point with this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzziwuz View Post
    Yes it's a disgrace, but he must make a living to provide for his children.
    Whatever happened to washing dishes? Working at Home Depot? Or is he completely unemployable at any regular job? Oh wait...he can't support 22 kids on those salaries? IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING!!! and at least shows he has something resembling some kind of dignity. That's the other alternative besides reality show and a life of crime...

    I'm beyond tired of black folks pimping and cooning themselves out to mainstream media for the almighty dollar. If I was one of his baby mamas I wouldn't let him or his cameras anywhere near me or my kid(s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LBellatrix View Post
    I don't always agree with Dr. Watkins but he's right on point with this one.
    Whatever happened to washing dishes? Working at Home Depot? Or is he completely unemployable at any regular job? Oh wait...he can't support 22 kids on those salaries? IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING!!! and at least shows he has something resembling some kind of dignity. That's the other alternative besides reality show and a life of crime...

    I'm beyond tired of black folks pimping and cooning themselves out to mainstream media for the almighty dollar. If I was one of his baby mamas I wouldn't let him or his cameras anywhere near me or my kid(s).


    I totally agree, esp about the part I put in bold letters. No good can come of that except a trend of more black folks finding even more degrading ways of cooning & pimping to get a reality show instead of using the values we used to have back in the day. Why can't all those mamas & older kids get off their lazy behinds ,find jobs, & everybody work? Getting a reality show just makes them look like a bunch of lazy folks looking for a quick way to get paid by just acting the fool & cooning for white folks. Back in the day we were raised different. Respect for elders, faith in God,pride in yourself, don't act like the monkeys & idiots they think we are, put education at the top of the list & do your best in school so you can go on to college, proper behavior at home, church, school, & in public.An honest day's work for an honest day's pay. Don't waste your money on material things you don't need. That's the way I was raised back in segregation days in the 60's. Neighbors could scold any kid they saw acting up. If you were poor you worked hard at any job you could get. Whole families got by like that; parents working & kids working when they could & saving their money. My mom's family did & she & her bro put themselves thru college like that. Same for many of my classmates' families. We often talk about this when we have reunions. No shame in dishwashing, being a maid, janitor, etc. It was WORK. Back in the 80s-90s we lost a lot of that proud black culture of the 70s & civil rights days when the crack epidemic wrecked neighborhoods & families. Then the worst of us came out...drugging, pimping, cooning, rap music with nasty anti woman lyrics, kids dropping out of school or being arrested for crimes. I'm a just retired teacher & believe me I saw all that mess hitting the kids at school. It would be awful if that fool gets a reality show..more negative images for the GOP & racists to put out there along with the "welfare queens".criminals,thugs etc. They've already tried to gut the voting rights bill to keep us from voting , stonewall anything Obama tries to do..even if it's something they were in favor of before he was elected, put out false rumors about him & the black community & they've got Texas millionaire money behind them. The more negative images we put out there & allow them to spread,the easier it is for them to find reasons to profile us & take us down, because our lives are not valued. That fact is what's REALLY behind Trayvon Martin's killing. Just another black THUG dead. Think about it.
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    A reality show is not along the same lines as a life of crime. He's currently doing nothing.... so of course the show is an improvement and an honest living.
    If I was one of his baby mamas I wouldn't let him or his cameras anywhere near me or my kid(s).
    I definitely agree. I'd stand in line for my cut tho. $5K may not be much, but it will make a greater dent than $5 dollars from a minimum wage job. (assuming pay is $50K). We can disapprove by not watching. At least Mr. Shaw will have one season where he can provide for all his kids.

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    If he & all his mamas had used birth control this wouldn't be an issue. Irresponsibility all around. He seems to be one of those guys that are proud of how many women he can knock up with with no thoughts ahead of time of how he's going to provide for them or their kids. Skewed idea of masculinity, surely indicative of massive insecurity about what it means to be a man or just downright stupidity. And any woman who'd lay down with such a man is at the very least as dumb as he is. Not thinking about the effect on all those kids of having such a living situation. Being ridiculed & talked about at school. Broke up many a classroom argument/ fight over " Your momma such a h** she don't even know who yo' daddy is" or " Yo' daddy no good ,don't pay y'all no mind 'cause he got baby mamas all over town, don't take care of none o' y'all" "He done left yo' mama for another woman 'cause he don't want y'all" Nice things for a kid to hear at school,right? Especially if it's TRUE.
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    Before I put my seat down in your amen corner, NubianPrize, let me respond to this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzziwuz View Post
    A reality show is not along the same lines as a life of crime. He's currently doing nothing.... so of course the show is an improvement and an honest living. I definitely agree. I'd stand in line for my cut tho. $5K may not be much, but it will make a greater dent than $5 dollars from a minimum wage job. (assuming pay is $50K). We can disapprove by not watching. At least Mr. Shaw will have one season where he can provide for all his kids.
    You missed my point: There is an improvement between a life of crime and a reality show and that's acting like an honest, responsible individual. In short: doing what most of us are doing on a daily basis but get no credit or fame for because God forbid black people ever be shown as being just like everybody else...

    I do agree with you about standing in line to get my cut, even if that meant taking his sorry azz to court. Maybe the producers are paying the baby mamas to be on camera...again, if that was me, it wouldn't be happening. But then again I wouldn't have gotten with this fool in the first damn place...and with that said...

    NubianPrize, I agree with EVERYTHING you said but I'm going to pull some parts out:

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    [/B][/U]Back in the day we were raised different. Respect for elders, faith in God,pride in yourself, don't act like the monkeys & idiots they think we are, put education at the top of the list & do your best in school so you can go on to college, proper behavior at home, church, school, & in public.An honest day's work for an honest day's pay. Don't waste your money on material things you don't need. That's the way I was raised back in segregation days in the 60's. Neighbors could scold any kid they saw acting up. If you were poor you worked hard at any job you could get. Whole families got by like that; parents working & kids working when they could & saving their money. My mom's family did & she & her bro put themselves thru college like that. Same for many of my classmates' families. We often talk about this when we have reunions. No shame in dishwashing, being a maid, janitor, etc. It was WORK.
    That's how I was raised in (allegedly) post-segregation days in the 70s. I grew up in the suburbs but my mom taught in the inner city (in the same school system she grew up in) and certain values such as hard work, respect for yourself and your family and neighbors, etc. transcended class. My parents never let us forget how fortunate my sisters and I were and I was surrounded by many examples of black folks both in the city and the suburbs just putting their heads down and getting to it and through it. Because WE KNEW what they thought of us and (for better or worse) we weren't intentionally trying to add to that image.

    My mom retired from teaching in the mid-1990s and I've often told her she could write a book on the decline of the inner city over the years. Again, she GREW UP and went to school in the inner city (born in the 40s).

    The more negative images we put out there & allow them to spread,the easier it is for them to find reasons to profile us & take us down, because our lives are not valued. That fact is what's REALLY behind Trayvon Martin's killing. Just another black THUG dead. Think about it.
    I'm glad you said this because the little bit I've been contributing to the conversation around recent events -- a little bit because I've got a lot of other stuff going on right now that needs my full and my best attention -- has been an attempt to get away from simplistic conclusions and more into the deep, complicated ish behind this.

    Now on the one hand we have to be careful not to blame Trayvon's death on how black folks present in the world because if anything his death demonstrates that it doesn't really matter how we present. I've had that come home to me in a big way recently. All my solid upbringing, my paying taxes on time, my lack of a criminal record, etc. doesn't matter: My skin color automatically negates that. Now if I'd been raised differently I might have taken that to mean that they (white folks) are right, my life isn't of value, and so why bother caring about myself or my family or the community or anything else? And I'm saying this as someone who grew up (relatively) privileged...why wouldn't someone else with less privilege agree with me?

    How-EVER, on the other hand...I really wish some of us would stop giving our enemies more ammunition. This man obviously doesn't have -- and has probably never had -- enough GOOD PEOPLE around him to know any better. For better or worse, black folks know better than anybody else that money is what makes things happen here and maybe that's why so many of us don't care about how we're seen by others. (Never mind TV...the men with the money are still the most admired and who's got the most money in the 'hood?) Maybe we've decided that responsibility ship's long sailed and it's every n***a for him/herself? I don't know...I wish I knew how we could turn all this around...
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    I wholeheartedly agree with all of NubianPrize's and LBell's posts. I get so frustrated when Black folks talk about having to do illegal, dishonorable, or exploitative things to support themselves and their children. I, too was raised by hard-working parents (both public school educators), and was taught to work hard to be able to take care of me and mine, and make NO EXCUSES.

    I sincerely hope that this show does not come to fruition. Last thing our community needs - at a time when many are asking that our plight in America be taken seriously - is more ignorance and buffoonery being displayed in the media.

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    ^^^ Ditto.
    Agree with NubianPrize, LBellatrix, and CCmomof5.
    IMHO, this is so damaging to our cause, because the impact of what is shown on television nowadays is even greater that it was a generation ago - since it's all so easily accessible to the whole world via the Internet.
    So folks who have never left and don't plan to leave their little corner of the planet, get to have these kinds of shows impact their opinions about Afro-Americans, from > 10,000 miles away

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCmomof5 View Post
    I wholeheartedly agree with all of NubianPrize's and LBell's posts. I get so frustrated when Black folks talk about having to do illegal, dishonorable, or exploitative things to support themselves and their children. I, too was raised by hard-working parents (both public school educators), and was taught to work hard to be able to take care of me and mine, and make NO EXCUSES.

    I sincerely hope that this show does not come to fruition. Last thing our community needs - at a time when many are asking that our plight in America be taken seriously - is more ignorance and buffoonery being displayed in the media.
    AMEN !! That "I'm doing it for my kids" just won't fly & it's a lame excuse because it 'll be seen as "another of those people too lazy to work, making babies with trashy women, & now out there looking for handouts & getting paid to act the fool on tv & get famous instead of going to work every day like the rest of us. " Like I said before, there's no shame in working as a maid,janitor,dishwasher, fast food place,etc, Both of my parents & my maternal uncle were teachers in the segregated schools, and my neighborhood was full of teachers; 12 -14 teachers at any given time & their families as well as career military & some blue collar workers. And as far as I know, all the kids I knew grew up to do well & have successful careers. They stayed in the church, too. Whenever I go to a reunion of the segregated schools we went to, there's ALWAYS a prayer offered in some part of the program. I've had numerous black kids in class who never go to church & don't know any of the spirituals from our history.
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