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    I am trying to find something that will keep my hair from going "poof" as my grandchildren tell me, this happens when humidity is high. Also I use shea butter almost every other day to give my twists a more crinkled look.

    Thanks for any tips :dunno:

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    Originally posted by Jamilah2@Oct 11 2005, 11:14 PM
    I am trying to find something that will keep my hair from going "poof" as my grandchildren tell me, this happens when humidity is high. Also I use shea butter almost every other day to give my twists a more crinkled look.

    Thanks for any tips :dunno:
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    ***raises hand like I am in "Natural Products Class 101"***

    The only thing that I thought could do that is silicones...which I wont use.

    It would seal the cuticle and keep moisture from getting into the strand which makes our hair do what it does. The only problem is that silicones are hard to remove from you hair once you put them on it.

    Now I might be talking totally out the side of my NECK...so the real "Professors" need to step in and educate us!

    Let's see what they say.
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    Did the "Homemade product professors go on strike?"

    I have been checking this thread erry day to see if they can respond!

    Ya'll got to tell me now if I told sis completely wrong...I dont want to mislead her if I can help it?


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    Originally posted by pookeylou@Oct 14 2005, 05:05 AM
    Did the "Homemade product professors go on strike?"

    I have been checking this thread erry day to see if they can respond!

    Ya'll got to tell me now if I told sis completely wrong...I dont want to mislead her if I can help it?



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    :lol: am i a homemade professor? you are too pookey

    i think using a creamy leave in on wet hair will help it not go 'poof'

    i've switched conditioners. no more cones for me. i'm just using a cheap supermarket brand that has only 4 ingredients: water, cetearyl alcohol, cetrimonium chloride and preservatives.


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    Originally posted by Blackstar+Oct 14 2005, 10:32 AM-->
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    @Oct 14 2005, 05:05 AM
    Did the "Homemade product professors go on strike?"

    I have been checking this thread erry day to see if they can respond!

    Ya&#39;ll got to tell me now if I told sis completely wrong...I dont want to mislead her if I can help it?



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    :lol: am i a homemade professor? you are too pookey

    i think using a creamy leave in on wet hair will help it not go &#39;poof&#39;

    i&#39;ve switched conditioners. no more cones for me. i&#39;m just using a cheap supermarket brand that has only 4 ingredients: water, cetearyl alcohol, cetrimonium chloride and preservatives.
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    Everybody on this forum is a homemade professor, fa real!
    Pookey you&#39;re sooo right with this one.

    @Jamilah2
    If by "puff" you mean frizz then there are a lot of man-made ingredients that can control frizz. If you purchase commercial products then be on the look out for polyglycides which form part of the glucosides family & are usually derived from corn. Below are a list of some.


    A well known American chemist published this on another forum I belong to - ironically I asked the same question in March of this year.


    Coco-Glucoside - trade names:
    Glucopon 650 EC (Cognis GmbH)
    Glucopon 625UP (Cognis GmbH)
    Oramix NS 06 (SEPPIC)
    Plantaren 818 (Cognis Care Chemicals/NJ)

    Decyl Glucoside - trade names:
    AG-10LK (Kao Corp.)
    Atlas G-73500 (Uniqema Americas)
    Oramix NS 10 (SEPPIC)
    Plantaren 2000 (Cognis Care Chemicals/NJ/PA)

    Lauryl Glucoside - trade names:
    DeSULF GOS-P-60WCG (DeForest)
    Marlosan 240 (Condea Chemie)
    Oramix NS 26 (SEPPIC)
    Plantaren 1200 (Cognis Care Chemicals/NJ/PA)
    Plantaren 1300 (Cognis Care Chemicals/NJ/PA)

    Not apart of the glucoside family are these 2:

    ISP Corp sell one called RAPITHIX® A-60
    INCI Name
    Sodium Polyacrylate (and) Hydrogenated Polydecene (and) Trideceth-6
    DESCRIPTION
    Supplied as an white milky dispersion, 57-59% solids
    PROPERTIES
    Emollient-based dispersion which is easy to handle and use. No pre-dispersion, preliminary swelling or warming necessary. Can be post-added to adjust viscosity after the emulsion has been formed and cooled. Produces instant crème gels at room temperature by simply adding water; high shear not required.
    APPLICATIONS
    Can be used in many personal care formulations. In hair care for shine lotions, anti-frizz products , crème gels, styling and conditioning creams. In skin care for creams and lotions, emulsifier-free products, after-sun products and creme gels.
    Taken from:
    http://www.ispcorp.com/products/hairskin/c...rheo/rap60.html

    And RAPITHIX® A-100
    INCI Name
    Sodium Polyacrylate
    DESCRIPTION
    Supplied as free flowing, fine powder.
    PROPERTIES
    Free flowing, fully active white powder offering greater formulation flexibility. No pre-set oil phase. Makes oil-free systems possible. High solids content for higher efficiency.
    APPLICATIONS
    Can be used in many personal care formulations. In hair care for shine lotions, anti-frizz products, crème gels, styling and conditioning creams. In skin care for creams and lotions, emulsifier-free products, after-sun products and creme gels.
    Taken from: http://www.ispcorp.com/products/hairskin/index_03.html

    You can always request a sample (they are very generous) and then mix it up with your butters. ISP&#39;s products are made to do exactly as it states in their "applications" so I believe that your puff will be gone ^_^

    ISP Corp has LOADS of man-made synthetic anti frizz ingredients
    http://www.ispcorp.com/products/hairskin/index_03.html so if you order samples have a look at what they&#39;ve got first.

    Like Pookey, I personally don&#39;t really have time for cones..
    Since giving up the synthetic lye & other synthetic ingredients I just try and mix what mother nature has to offer - my hair LOVES moisture & if it goes puff - it&#39;s only napptural just as long as my hair stays healthy - again this is IMHO.

    However I do use lye to make soap as you can not make soap without it but the lye is saponified in the oils and cured for up to 8 to 10 weeks (depending) so there is no damage there.

    HTH


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    :doh:

    I totally forgot about Broccoli Seed Oil.

    http://www.nappturality.com/forum/index.ph...1&#entry1039191

    A silicone alternative.


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    @Jamilah2

    Did you ever get any samples?

    If so.. did you ever get to try any of the above like?
    - Sodium Polyacrylate (and) Hydrogenated Polydecene (and) Trideceth-6
    - Sodium Polyacrylate
    - Glucosides
    - Broccoli seed oil

    With some oils and butters or plant extracts?


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    Just got my Broccoli Seed oil and I like it!!!
    I was jumping up and down like a crazy lady!
    It has a thick consistency similar to EVOO, locks in moisture but I have yet to try it on freshly washed naked wet hair.
    (naked = no condish - just final rinse with herbs usually Nettle)

    Must tear myself away from this laptop, pricing my goodies, chemists & the joy of web design etc :lol: to test this ingredient out on my hair.

    Got to go to the gym, come back wash my hair then put the Broccoli seed oil on my naked hair ... YUP, no condish (stop calling me crazy y&#39;all :lol: I only deep condish once a month) then apply ONLY Broccoli Seed Oil - twist up and report back later on this evening (after Eastenders of course )

    I&#39;ll keep y&#39;all updated!

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    I am trying to find something that will keep my hair from going "poof" as my grandchildren tell me, this happens when humidity is high. Also I use shea butter almost every other day to give my twists a more crinkled look.

    Thanks for any tips dunno.gif
    @Jamilah2
    Did you ever get those samples from ISP Corp?
    Or did you find products that contained these ingredients?
    If you did, please let us know the outcome - I would be very interested to know.


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    Just curious, does broccoli seed oil smell anything like broccoli?
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    It&#39;s virtually odourless, very light green almost the colour of a fading green leaf in autumn.

    When I spread a teeny drop on the back of my hand and inside my elbow (to test myself for allergic reactions) I found that it sunk straight in leaving a nice gloss over my skin within an instant.
    Sort of reminded me of the same feel I got when I used to use Palmers Cocoa Butter Formula.

    I noted these observations down in my NewOils.txt at 09:00 but
    now my skin is very soft around those areas and the gloss is gone.


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