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03-01-2008, 02:09 PM #11Active Nappturality Member
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Well a good conditioner to try that has an excellent ratio of moisture and protein is Aubrey Organic's Glycogen Protein Balancing Conditioner. I always come back to this--in fact I just bought two bottles earlier to replenish my stash
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03-05-2008, 04:33 PM #12Senior Napp
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Okay, so this is getting good! ^^I will have to check out Aubrey Organic's products. The thing with me is I don't know how to read my hair yet. The strand test didn't really tell me anything. I want to get to the point where I can assess whether it's protein or moisture my hair is craving. Accordingly, I want to stock up on products to aid me on my quest.
Hair guru Sistaslick (who isn't natural) has mastered the moisture/protein balance and you can see from her album how her hair has progressed. The same principles obviously apply to us nappies.
If people can suggest more products that can get me going (as if I need anymore temptation - I have so many producs already!) :unsure:[url="http://stealstyle.blogspot.com/"]I Like Her Style! - New Fashion Blog![/url]
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If you use a protein based deep conditoner and your hair becomes hard and brittle afterwards, does this mean your hair doesn't need protein? I notice that everytime I use protein based conditioners (even natural ones such as avocado and egg yolk, my hair gets hard. Besides the ones I just mentioned, what other natural products we use for our hairs are protein based? Does anybody know about a deep conditoner that is for moisturizing primarily?
Thanks for your patience!
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03-05-2008, 10:15 PM #14
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Okay, so this is getting good! ^^I will have to check out Aubrey Organic's products. The thing with me is I don't know how to read my hair yet. The strand test didn't really tell me anything. I want to get to the point where I can assess whether it's protein or moisture my hair is craving. Accordingly, I want to stock up on products to aid me on my quest.
Hair guru Sistaslick (who isn't natural) has mastered the moisture/protein balance and you can see from her album how her hair has progressed. The same principles obviously apply to us nappies.
If people can suggest more products that can get me going (as if I need anymore temptation - I have so many producs already!) :unsure:
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03-06-2008, 08:21 AM #15Senior Napp
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Oh okay! I thought it was possible to over moisturize, but I guess that is another way of saying you have not balanced the moisture with adequate protein (as you state). I will try the strand test again and see where I'm at! As always, thank you taking the time to respond! :wub:
Yajaira - I know that Henna is heavily protein based and that is another protein conditioner. You may not me moisturizing enough or deep conditioning too often. :dunno: I think it is possible to get a deep conditioner that is moisturizing. As Nappy Me stated earlier in the thread...
"As far as a DC being moisturizing, yes that's possible. Many conditioners and those meant "moisturize" the hair contain hygroscopic ingredients, which means they contain ingredients that attract allow your hair to attract and retain moisture. All conditioners are forumlated to leave something behind in the final rinse and so moisturizing conditioner leave hygroscopic ingredients behind that aid in helping your hair stay moisturized."[url="http://stealstyle.blogspot.com/"]I Like Her Style! - New Fashion Blog![/url]
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Oh okay! I thought it was possible to over moisturize, but I guess that is another way of saying you have not balanced the moisture with adequate protein (as you state). I will try the strand test again and see where I'm at! As always, thank you taking the time to respond! :wub:
Yajaira - I know that Henna is heavily protein based and that is another protein conditioner. You may not me moisturizing enough or deep conditioning too often. :dunno: I think it is possible to get a deep conditioner that is moisturizing. As Nappy Me stated earlier in the thread...
"As far as a DC being moisturizing, yes that's possible. Many conditioners and those meant "moisturize" the hair contain hygroscopic ingredients, which means they contain ingredients that attract allow your hair to attract and retain moisture. All conditioners are forumlated to leave something behind in the final rinse and so moisturizing conditioner leave hygroscopic ingredients behind that aid in helping your hair stay moisturized."
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03-06-2008, 01:07 PM #17Junior Napp
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Well, here goes...
Your hair basically has three layers. The outter scales are your cuticles and they are there to protect your hair shaft. The next layer is your cortex. It's made up primarily of fibers made of protein and that's what gives your hair it's strength. The cortex is also where your hair store moisture. Moisture is needed to help keep your hair soft, and supple so that it isn't dry and brittle. Moisture is also needed so that your hair has good elasticity...meaning the ability to stretch. Pull a strand of your out or take a strand of shed hair and see how well it stretches before it breaks. If it breaks right away, it's not very well moisturized and perhaps may be damaged. Therefore elasticity is a good indication of how healthy your hair is.
Ah... I forgot about the third layer. It's the medula, which is the middle of the hair shaft. But since it really has no purpose guess that's why I forgot to say anything about it. :P
Anyhoo, all hair needs to be properly moisturized. Nappy hair is inherently dry. That's why everyone on this board is always scrambling to find a good moisturizing product. When you look for a good moisturizer, it's likely to be water-based. Look for water or aqua as one of the first ingredients in your product and you'll know that it's water-based.
NOTE: Don't confuse oil for moisture. Water=moisture. Oils can seal in moisture and help lubricate but they do not moisturize your hair.
Most hair can benefit from external applications of protein. Protein can bind to protein. How much you need really depends on the condition of your hair. Severely damaged and breaking hair will need protein treatments on a regular basis to help it become strong again and to stave off more damage. Products like Apohgee and Nexxus Emergencee are both good products that are basically straight protein. Just know that too much protein can have the opposite affect of what you're trying to accomplish. In other words, too much protein can cause your hair to become hard, dry and brittle. So I don't think you should use these types of products on your hair unless it's really damaged and even then, I probably wouldn't use it more than once a week.
Healthier hair most likely does not need much of an external source of protein. But if you look at the ingredients list, many products are indeed fortified with some type of protein. Shampoos, conditioners and many hair dressing are really good sources of protein as well. And again, if your hair is healthy, this probably all you'll ever need.
Oh, I think someone on NP posted a study about coconut oil being a substance that can actually penetrate the hair shaft and bind to the protein in your cortex and help to strengthen it. So it seems to me, that if you don't want to use protein, this can be an alternative way to help your hair retain/gain strength.
Ok... so I hope this helps.
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03-06-2008, 01:47 PM #19
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The medulla is where your GOD given hair color lies...so I guess it serves a purpose... ^_^
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Using purpose of the medulla in the hair shaft as a search term I googled it and found a site called Verticals in Hair. It's actually well written and put together so I'm going to save it to my favorites. Here's an excerpt from an article called I found on the site called Hair Up Close:
The cortex is the main section of the hair, and it is here that we find the pigment granules that give hair its color. The cortex also contains the structure that gives hair its shape. This is the part of hair that we affect when we style it. When the hair is too curly or too straight, we chemically change the structure within the cortex (disulfide bonds) to add or remove curl “permanentlyâ€Â. The cortex also holds the hair’s water content. Because of this relationship, we might think of the cortex as springs arranged in a very thick protein/water “cementâ€Â.
The medullary canal is a hollow or partially hollow shaft which appears in some hair strands. It seems to have no effect with regard to the strength of the hair, but its presence or absence can alter the way in which the hair interacts with light. The exact function or purpose of the medulla has not yet been determined by scientists.
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