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10-12-2019, 02:20 AM #1
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Re: So, Natural Hair is Mainstream Now? We Are Not.
@KnottyAuthor you just hit the nail on the head. I remember that movie now - it simplified and misrepresented our hair stories but it had mass appeal to the simple-minded bandwagon mentality.
In the background, via email now - I am still receiving a LOT of messages asking for help and advice. Nothing has changed for me in that regard. That's why I am torn between shutting the doors and not.Young women may be growing up now with more access to natural hair resources and products, but the mentality is still exactly the same as it was in 2002. The same hair grading, the same hair hate, the same yearning for a better "grade" - the same boyfriend issues, same family insults. Same wedding straightening drama. It's like there are two worlds existing side by side..."The truth is, your natural hair, in all its texture, is the hair that is ideal for YOU.."
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12-14-2019, 12:13 PM #2KnottyAuthor
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Re: So, Natural Hair is Mainstream Now? We Are Not.
@dee Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I feel ya. It's a struggle. Perhaps publishing and leaving it out there for the 'next' generation will help assuage your yearning to educate. I do feel guilty (from time to time) for not doing workshops / seminars...but then it passes. I know the books are there for those that are 'called'.
I got tired of arguing with women about why they can't use kool-aid to dye their hair and other fun fantasies the internet has begun to push with the rise in social media and FAKE news. The conversation became less genuine and less organic as folk shifted to severe product junkiism with the rise in accessibility of product at the consumer level. Perhaps this is the torch that has passed? Hmmm. Im good with it. I feel like they mama or g-ma lecturing now, less of a girlfriend having coffetalk now, lol. Funny how time shifts things....Last edited by KnottyAuthor; 12-14-2019 at 12:15 PM.
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12-16-2019, 04:23 AM #3
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Girl, I'm feeling it more and more. Nappturality is an enigma. I think we created something here that will never be duplicated. Maybe it was the time, the place society was at that point, but we really came together and talked about EVERYTHING. We took the time to write thoughtful posts, not 200 characters. We didn't scroll through at 100mph, we actually read what others had to say. I really miss that.
Social Media helped connect people and can be fun but in essence it has ruined the world in a lot more ways. We have lost substantive online conversations and community as Black women we really lost. Not just NP but other sites as well. They're all gone, taken over, turned to online selling places.
I am going to launch a donation drive soon, so I can archive everything and put the conversations into a searchable repository. I can't have all this knowledge just disappear like everything else we do. And I won't be here in 60 years to keep it real.
"The truth is, your natural hair, in all its texture, is the hair that is ideal for YOU.."
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03-25-2020, 05:49 PM #4
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We will continue to lead by our examples. My two girls still have natural hair. They do sometimes straighten it with a straightening iron, but they also sometimes let it be natural without the straightening. I have done my part.
They are 18 and 20 years old. I will continue to sing praises of how their hair looks best kinky and curly.
And as for me, I have vowed to be napptural for life. No one and nothing will ever change that.
Thanks Dee for starting up Np. It was my haven when I was going napptural and had loose hair and when I started my locs. It will continue to be a haven for people who are napptural and for those who need encouragement to keep it napptural.Uzuri - May 2006 NoTM
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04-28-2020, 01:56 AM #5
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All of this! I miss NP so much mainly because of the connectedness and sense of community. I don't know where I'd be now without it. I went natural at 18 and having NP to actually go through and discuss with others helped me on my journey tremendously. I've found that it's less of a journey and more of a trend now. The various things I've seen people doing with their natural hair makes me absolutely cringe. One thing that I will always carry with me from NP is that going natural is more than just chopping your hair off. It's a mental transition as well. I hope there are still new naturals who are truly embarking on a journey and not just going natural so that their hair can grow back thick enough to straighten again. Dee - I will never ever, EVER be able to thank you enough for this site.
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05-22-2020, 11:49 PM #6OG PANK Panther
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I appreciate social media for all that it has done and all that it is able to do. That said, I do think there's a lot to be said for the longer posts that allow us to share our thoughts with nuance and consideration of the "other" viewpoint. Whatever people have had to say about NP being too militant doesn't negate the impact that it had on the black community, in my opinion. This forum was a cornerstone of the natural hair movement and I'm glad to have been a part of that.
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10-24-2021, 02:24 PM #7
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Re: So, Natural Hair is Mainstream Now? We Are Not.
TW: language (bleeped where needed)
This video was posted yesterday (10/23/21) and the longer I watched it, the angrier I got.
Rather than start a new thread, I thought I'd just vent in here...and the fact that this is the only place I feel comfortable venting may partially answer the question I'm about to ask, which is: Why isn't natural hair mainstream yet?
I've long claimed to be a student of history, and as such, I've said many times that when it comes to the African diaspora accepting itself fully, "it takes a long time to turn a big ship." However, I've reached a point where every time I see one of these pieces, especially in "mainstream" outlets like The Economist, I'm like: Why are we still talking about this? Why, now that we're fully one-fifth of the way into the 21st Century, is the care of so-called "black hair" still being described as though it's 1900?
First off: There are a lot of people who identify as black who don't have so-called "black hair." Can we get specific about our terms? We're talking about highly-textured, tight curls and coils...the kind of hair that doesn't hang, doesn't swing, doesn't blind you with its shine, and basically is the opposite of straight hair, which too many of us are still using, wrongly IMO, as the benchmark. This type of hair happens to be most common amongst people of sub-Saharan African descent but there is no such thing as "black hair" (or "mixed hair," while I'm at it).
Second: The TWA works in EVERY work environment. I said that back in f***ing 1995 and I still say it today. So I'm not hearing anyone complaining about how they "can't" wear their natural hair at work. Something else I've been saying for f***ing ever: Not every natural hair STYLE may be suitable for every workplace, but that doesn't mean you can't find one that IS.
Third: How much of this ongoing struggle with highly-textured natural hair is because of THEM (white folks) and how much of it is because of US? There's more information out here now than ever before...so what's really the problem here?
Fourth: Who the F*** is putting ONION JUICE on their hair? What the hell is that supposed to do?
(Disclaimer: I'm coming up on 2 years doing the Black Girl Curls method and seeing a curl stylist for regular trims. After 20+ years of having done nearly ALL THE THINGS (tm), I'm no longer interested in experimenting or wasting a significant chunk of my limited free time on hair. And yeah, it started out a little pricey, but the amount of time and energy I've saved and am saving is more than worth it.)
Fifth and final: I remember saying back when NP started that hopefully someday forums like NP would no longer be necessary. I see more naturals out here than ever before and yet there are still pieces like this video being done, which takes me back to why I started writing this in the first place. I realize that The Economist is UK-based but there's enough American information in that video (including the mention of The CROWN Act, which is kind of insane to me but that's a whole other subject) to make me wonder.
If you're read this far, thanks for listening/reading.Hello, 2021. Glad to see you. Hope you're bringing us goodness and light this year!
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10-24-2021, 03:27 PM #8
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I just finished watching the video and I actually liked it. I love any videos about natural hair. Love seeing natural hair on videos.
I'm lucky that I live in Denmark. Danes don´t have the same mentality. If it´s your natural hair, why isn´t that professional? That´s what a Dane would wonder. They never really understand why a black woman would put on a wig, if she has a whole head of hair underneath and is not bald from chemo.
Most especially in the summer time when black women have heavy wigs on in the heat...
"How much of this ongoing struggle with highly-textured natural hair is because of THEM (white folks) and how much of it is because of US? There's more information out here now than ever before...so what's really the problem here?"
Good question. I personally believe it´s because of "US". Lots of black people have an inferiority complex when it comes to their hair. We cannot continue blaming the colonisers for that. We need to take ownership and challenge any barriers to wearing our hair natural in any workplace.Uzuri - May 2006 NoTM
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10-26-2021, 03:19 AM #9
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I am going to watch this and come back to comment.
"The truth is, your natural hair, in all its texture, is the hair that is ideal for YOU.."
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11-18-2021, 07:49 AM #10
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