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Hi all, Need Help please

Hi all, I'm new here and I need help. I guess I'll start by telling you all my story.

So I started to embrace my hair back in 2016. All my life I was told I had "Bad" hair. My mom would get frustrated because she did not know how to manage my curly hair and she chopped it all off when I was 4. Later on as I got older she figured relaxing it was better. Once I got more control of my hair at the age of 16 I stopped relaxing because I knew I didn't need that. However I was still subscribed to the idea that straight hair was "good" and beautiful hair. Around 23 years I was going through a lot of changes internally. One day I started to research hair care tips online and I stumbled upon Devacurl and the CGM and a bunch of youtubers who were in the process of or successfully transitioning to wearing their hair curly. At the time I was doing Brazilian Keratin straightening treatments. ( I still had no idea how to care for my hair or how to love it and I thought that a sleek look was easy to manage and my best option).

Soon after all my research I got a haircut by a devacurl certified stylist. In these 3 years I've gone through many ups and downs with my curly hair adventure. I no longer blow dry my hair or flat iron it unless i'm going to a special event where I do want to wear my hair straight...which is very rare. However I still do color my hair. I've experimented with SO many different products and I am a self professed product junkie. For the past 2 years I have been very bad about regularly trimming or cutting my hair. I have a deep distrust of people handling my hair and devacurl salon visits soon proved to be too expensive for my poor pockets. My hair was thriving when I trimmed myself at home but of course since I am not a professional I gave myself a lot of holes and uneven haircuts.

Then this fall I decided to color my hair to switch things up. I made the mistake of trusting a friend to do it since she colors her own hair and her hair looks nice and beautifully colored. It turned out horrible. I had to buy a box of color at the pharmacy to cover up the horrible color. Things seemed fine still but then I decided it was time for a professional haircut. I wanted to protect my poor pockets so I went to a beauty school and the guy who cut my hair is a professional who has been cutting hair for decades, but he has no expertise in curly hair. He did the best he could I'm not going to lie, He evened everything out and blended all the holes I had given myself.

When I showed my loved ones they all hated the new haircut. The shape was very unflattering. I could not bring myself to hate the haircut or to love it either. All I knew then was that my frayed ends were gone and my head felt much more lighter and my hair could breathe. I told myself that I got the haircut I needed and not the haircut I wanted. Fast forward 2 months...my hair is a complete mess! my curls won't curl. My hair is completely unmanageable. Nothing and I mean Nothing works. Oil treatments, deep conditioning, protective hairstyles, satin pillow cases, NOTHING.

Now I feel confused and concerned because it's like nothing I have experienced before in my process. I don't know if it's because of the cold winter weather or because I started to use head and shoulders shampoo after the haircut, the heat in my apartment, the haircut, the coloring, or if my hair is going through a process. All I know is that my hair feels wiry, dull, dry, it won't absorb any products and it won't curl, I have so much shedding and my ends are frayed again.

someone please help me :'(
Original author: Monua
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Hair "dries" out too quickly?

Hello beautiful ladies!

I have a 4c twa and I'm really getting into the groove of things. However, I've noticed that my hair just eats any kind of moisture within 2 days, maximum. So far I've tried Jessicurl deep conditioner, urban hydration honey health & repair daily moisturizer (My liquids), creme of nature moisture rich hair butter & sheamoisture curling smoothie (My cream/butter), Natural Hair Queens Butta Butta Cream and Sweet almond oil (My oils).

I use the LCO method because I think that works a little better for me, but whatever combination of my products that I use, it always seems on the 2nd day it needs moisture again. I've read around and some people manage to get their hair to stay moisturized for 7 days?? Lol How is that possible??

My question is - What are some sure fire ways to know for sure that I need to moisturize again? I've been gently pulling sections and seeing if it snaps back or not.
Original author: EloquentElixir
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What's up curlies?? I'm Brianna!

I just wanted to take the time to introduce myself and get familiar with the forum. As I said before, my name is Brianna (On forums i usually go by my handle so Elo, Eloquent, Elixir - whatever floats your boat!) and i recently started my hair journey over again on November 2nd after being frustrated with my hair for years.

It turned out that oil wasnt the solve all to my problems! My hair was dry, even though I was oiling it daily? My hair was just so nappy when I tried to comb it? My hair and scalp always felt dry and my dandruff was out of control! What was I doing wrong? Girl, everything for starters!

Now that I'm aware of hair types, density, porosity and all that other good stuff, I'm making great strides in taking care of my hair
Original author: EloquentElixir
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Not quite sure about my hair type

Hey ya'll, whats going on?

So, I recently started my hair journey over this November 2nd, and I'd say I've made some really great progress in these short few weeks (I'll show you). However, I'm having a bit of a hard time identifying what hair type I have because I just recently big chopped (I've NEVER worn my natural hair until now, 21 years later).

I'd like to think that I have 100% 4c hair, but I think it might be a mix between 4b/4c because I have SOME curls, but definitely not enough to be 4a. Please help me out, ladies!

First picture is current (November 23rd), 2nd is a better look at my head, and 1st pic is big chop day (November 2nd)!
https://imgur.com/a/cslSZVk
Original author: EloquentElixir
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Old Head

Hi everyone. I big chopped in 2010 and pretty much lived on this board to lean how to manage my hair. I can’t remember my old screen name nor do I have access to my old college email address to reset the password. I’d love to see some of my old posts. SoulRebel, KnottyAuthor, NappyMia and GAN are a few of the names I remember. Thanks Dee for creating a safe space for us.
I’m still natural, 4 years loc’d.
Original author: OnLocDown
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New Member

Hey all,

I am new to the group, just saying hi to everyone.
Original author: coilqueen2019
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The Place for Natural Hair Questions

There is no such thing as a stupid question where natural hair is concerned! All questions are important and we welcome any and all comments.

Hair too dry?
Hair to coarse?
Shake and go not happening?
Keeping moisture in isn't working?
Protective style trouble?
Used heat and now you've got damage?
Which products for 4c hair?

We can help! Looking forward to helping you all out.

~Dee~
Original author: deecoily
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Can We Talk About the Dem Debates?

Everyone is talking about how Biden has the Black woman vote on lock. I'm not so sure about this. I see his approval among us being more from his familiarity with us than with his policy. He represents to me the safe, easy (lazy) Democratic voter. I am one of those people who likes Biden, who he is and how he handles himself - but when I saw Kamala up against him on that debate stage and listened to her personal stories, she moved up a few notches with me. Picture Biden as Trump - she eviscerates her opponents by by being prepared, succinct and laser focused. Biden was shocked by her prowess and that diminished him in my eyes.

Kamala nailed it.

As far as the other candidates worth mentioning, Bernie Sanders was the same old Bernie Sanders. Nothing new and everything I expected.
Buttigieg - not a champion for Black people
Swalwell - mayo with hot sauce
Gillibrand - vanilla pistachio ice cream
Bennett - hot fritos with a side of whine

The rest...... meh
Original author: deecoily
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Who remembers integration and bussing?

As a result of the integration policies of the 60s, 70s

Trying to start a conversation here about something not often spoken about but brought back into the spotlight by Kamala Harris. A lot of us are over 40 now and may have some experiences to share about integration and bussing.

Personally I wasn't bussed but I remember when others were.

I'm interested in hearing your stories.
Original author: deecoily
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Trying to grow your hair?

New article on tips to growing out your natural hair. Are you using the right products? Minimizing breakage is not that difficult once you learn how. Be sure to read my latest article on hair growth and growing your hair to its maximum length.

Natural Hair - Maximum Length Simplified


Let me know what you think and if you have any tips to add!

~Dee~
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Original author: deecoily
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So, Natural Hair is Mainstream Now? We Are Not.

It seems to me that the essence of going natural is being transformed into not so much of a journey of self-discovery but a journey to see how many hair products one can use on their heads to make their natural hair into something more acceptable. More like that lady they saw on TV. Wait, they SAW ON TV?

Not too long ago, and I mean within the last 5 years, this just didn't happen. It was unusual. So unusual that people who saw natural women on TV took pictures and uploaded them to NP to comment on. (TRUTH) We didn't see Zerlinas and Mayas on NBC prime time with their beautiful natural hair and locs gracing the screen on the news or on expert panels. Locs and naturals were resigned to the fringes of TV, more seen in music and entertainment and hanging out the backs of helmets of NFL players. We were not seen.

Maybe this paradigm shift was inevitable. Maybe it's just the way things go as we make progress. Remember when we were focused on our journeys, discovering how amazing our real hair truly is? Discussed how our hair was affecting those around us and how we were being judged, stared at, people reaching out to touch our hair, feeling for tracks? Women of all ages who were just starting out were talking about how since going natural they were beginning to feel different about themselves?

These changes could be because natural hair is not seen as something unusual now. Because of the Movement we created, natural hair has hit the mainstream. Thousands of hair products promising to deliver your hair from an undefined nappy halo to something well-defined and acceptable in the natural hair realm to be envied by all who lays eyes on it. This has become the focus.

Nappturality took on the first publicized case of hair discrimination back in 2003, so long ago I can't even remember the sister's name though I remember her face and I remember she worked in government / in a courthouse maybe. I remember contacting her, but she didn't want to talk about what happened to her because of all the abuse she was getting. But we mobilized for the cause anyway. And she was reinstated.

NOW, 16 years later, 2 progressive States, CA and NY have ratified laws making natural hair discrimination illegal so what happened to her won't happen to you in those States.

This is forward progress and I will take it wherever I can get it.

But at the root of all of this, and the reason why this Natural Hair Movement must retain its heart and soul, is that most Black women still do not wear their natural hair. And not always by choice, but by design. Not because they tried it and didn't like it. But because it's what their mothers and grandmothers did. It's what they teach their daughters to do. It's just done. We are taught to "fix" that nappy, unmanageable hair from an early age. Most Black women don't even know what their real natural hair looks like except for that tiny bit of new growth that peeks through before being fried with chemicals or heat back into some form of straightness.

I still hear about heads and bodies being too big for natural hair. Boyfriends and husbands preferring straight hair. It's too nappy. Too hard. Too thick. Too thin. Too difficult. Too short. Too scared. Too ugly. Too, too, too. And the simple, I hate me in my natural (real, actual born with it) hair.

It's this. The ignorance of the form and beauty of our real hair. How and why it is made for us - for you. How it takes years off your face. And why it is still not respected or loved or appreciated by most of us, that I am still here claiming and holding on to this movement. And whether I am speaking to thousands or to an empty room, I'm still here.
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Original author: deecoily
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Excited about this forum

Hello, I am excited about this forum. I have been natural for over 10 years and I still have a lot of learning to do and questions to ask.
Original author: Embracing.Natural
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Hi everyone!

I'm excited to make new friends and to learn anything about hair & beauty! Nice meeting y'all! :)
Original author: Abby
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Help! random bald spots with funny feeling scalp *Thread noob*

So I'm abit depressed, I've been looking for a a natural hair forum to post this on cause i need help.
I am a little over 4 years natural, my hair length is a mystery and if i were to guess, the longest parts is somewhere around armpit length, 4C high density, low por, and medium thickness.
I recently ran into moister overload, and gave myself a protein treatment, problem is the protein treatment i made was too strong and i got protein overload. However by the 3rd day, i was told to try a bentonite clay mask to fix the problem, in which i did and my hair was saved, soft, and a tangled free mess. So it seemed.
I noticed my scalp was oddly itchy, but i figured it was do to excess oil on my scalp because that's what happens when i put too much oil in my scalp. My scalp is naturally oily, and i saw excess oil there so i figured that was what it was, and dabbed some of the oil out.
Fast forward to this week, I was doing my weekly deep conditioning, Someone told me that i should try pure aloe vera gel, and leave it in my hair and rinse it out after 15 minutes as it helped her hair. I Applied the gel thoroughly with some water on my hair and scalp, i saw a some hair's on my hands and a Some in the sink, but nothing alarming or more than usual. I then put on a cap and left it on for 15 minutes, my scalp was abit more itchy and tingly with a little stinging, but i didn't think much of it. I then did my normal deep condition with Aussie moist with some honey and olive oil in it as honey makes my hair extra juicy, soft and moisturized when i use it correctly, and if i abuse it, i end up with moisture overload or a sticky mess.

Well this time i used a different brand of honey, still raw and organic, but it was darker, i heard darker honey was more potent and beneficial, so i thought it would work well. I Also used much less honey than i normally do, like about a teaspoon to a teaspoon and a half. Were as before i used about 2-3 tablespoons. I worked it through out my hair and left it on around my normal time, abit shorter , almost about 2 hours. I felt that same dull itchy, tingly, slightly stinging feeling on my scalp and started getting concerned that my hair might fall out for some reason, and i didn't want moisture overload again. I knew when i add honey to my conditioner, the amount of time i can deep condition drops. so after two hours i rinsed my hair out, with no hair in my hands or sink. But to my HORROR i saw a Random bald spot spawn on the side of my head that was not there, i was like "WTF??!" i quickly put on my glassed and looked in the mirror in horror. I have no idea were tf it came from or why! , i quickly tried to wash the rest the conditioner out an went through my hair panicking, expecting hair to just be detaching from my scalp and falling in clumps, but low and behold, no hair (my hair was in twists so i was unraveling them and retwisting them) I didn't have so much as a tiny bit of ball hair come out. "WHERE TF MY HAIR GO??!".
My hair seemed fine, no signs of moisture overload, soft,tangled free and none in my hands. IT JUST VANISHED FROM MY SCALP.
Later i found another one on the other side of my head, two more to be exact and i am DEFEATED. I don't know what happened, or what's causing this and i'm afraid it will spread and all my hair will just fall out. My scalp still has a weird sensation a.k.a a scratchy and slight stinging sensation. But there is no redness in my scalp at all, not even in the bald spots. Im so scared and shook. Because i just completely filled in my entire head of bald spots that i had from perm damage YEARS back and now i got BRAND NEW bald spots right after i just filled the last ones in COMPLETELY!. IT's NOT fair!

My question is, does anyone know what i could have done wrong??! Was it the protein overload i had last week? and if so why why didn't i have the bald spot until today?, I see my hair all over every single day, there's no WAY i could miss it. IT couldn't have been the bentonite clay because i've used it before with no ill results. The only thing i can think of i did differently, is the Aloe gel, and using different honey. But i don't know which one! and i'm to afraid of losing more hair to try and see what did it.

It's really discouraging, because i take pride in having high density 4C hair, something i hated for the longest, hair so thick you can't find my scalp, seeing my hair all of sudden look scalpy with bald spots HURTS. My spots also don't look like a perfect circle like Alopecia , it's just kinda random and irregular, around my edges and towards the front and top and sides. The first one i saw goes in almost a straight/ diagonal almost zigzag like line. the fear of being set back in my growth for the gazillionth time just upsets me so much. Any advice and opinions would be appreciated.


Added info. I do not do the most with my hair and only been protective styling in for the last few years shampooing it, twisting it, moisturizing it, and leaving it alone under wraps and bonnets. :(. My hair seems healthy right now besides the damaged parts. IF i unravel my twists it's super defined, shiny, and juicy. I babied it for a reason. To slow down my breakage and to get growth, and so far it has proven to work. I feel like my hair just disrespected me..

Right now im looking to get some bitoin as its worked on my hair before, but things like castor oil and wild growth did nothing for my hair growth.. But i'm completely open to any other suggestions. thanks.
Original author: FlowerPower101
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Im back

It been a long time since I got on here, looking forward to being here.
Original author: TheOneLove
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Hey ya'll!!

Hey everyone! I'm back on Nappturality! I joined in 2009 when I began my natural hair journey. I learned a lot of valuable information that has helped me so much with my hair! My hair is now loc'd (since January) & I am enjoying the journey. I'm open to learning more about locs & awesome products to use.
Original author: TweepsyLocs
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Mielle?

Has anyone tried this stuff? I'm looking to try the honey and pomegranite leave in conditioner.
Original author: LostMyWeave
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My beginning black hair care

I dont know anything of good hair care . And know where to begin . Can you get me to know what I am doing all the time and why ? And to be extremely good at it. And all I want , if yes, tell me all I need to know.
Original author: mnopstuv5000
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Hard water buildup after holiday

It seems like my post before didn't post (It's not visible on my account). So, I'll try one more time. I'm sorry if it posts two times now :/

Hi everyone :) I'm new here and couldn't find a discussion that fits my question, so I hope it's okay that I'm starting a new one.
So, for the holidays I've stayed in Turkey with my family and while everything was great, the water unfortunately wasn't. I started noticing the lack of definition and shine after the first wash already. My hair is normally 2c-3a, but they look 2b now and are really dry. There weren't a lot of curly hair products, so stuck with the ogx clarifying shampoo. I had to leave that in Turkey, so I gave it to my cousin who also has curly hair. Back in Germany, I did an ACV rinse, but it didn't seem to work too much, but I definitely see some improvement. Some strands are even almost back to normal. Should I just keep on doing the rinse, or should I buy a clarifying shampoo? I was thinking the Joico K-Pak Clarifying Shampoo is good. Or do you recommend anything else? I'm on a budget and I never really had to deal with hard Water, so I'm kinda freaking out.
Original author: JessicaJulie
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Afrogeek is back...

Still nappy!(:-)
Original author: afrogeek
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